Armando Iannucci talks political satire and new HBO series âVeepâ
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In the middle of a publicity blitz for âVeep,â the new HBO comedy series premiering Sunday that stars Julia Louis-Dreyfus as a frustrated vice president, Armando Iannucci is holed up at the Trump International Hotel on Columbus Circle in Manhattan. Iannucci, the showâs Scottish creator, takes a swig from a water bottle emblazoned with Donald Trumpâs distinctive orange scowl.
âIâm drinking from his face,â he jokes, pausing to stifle a sneeze with the crook of his arm.
The luxury hotel is an incongruous habitat for someone as habitually modest as Iannucci, who tends to apologize before tweeting anything even vaguely self-promotional, not to mention someone whoâs made a career mocking the egomaniacal, the petty and the power-hungry.
Stateside, the 48-year-old Iannucci is best known for âIn The Loop,â his artfully profane black comedy about the run-up to an ill-advised war in the Middle East, released to critical acclaim â and an Oscar nomination for best adapted screenplay â in 2009. Yet, over the last two decades heâs established himself as one of Britainâs preeminent humorists. He first made waves in Britain in 1991 with âThe Day Today,â a satirical news program, and followed that with âKnowing Me, Knowing You with Alan Partridge,â starring comedian Steve Coogan as the dense and self-important host of a fake TV show.
Then there was âThe Thick Of It,â Iannucciâs excruciatingly funny British series about a group of manic, image-conscious London bureaucrats, which was later spun off into âIn the Loop.â In a typical episode, a beleaguered government minister accidentally sends a crude email to an 8-year-old girl, then forces his press secretary to take the blame. (The third season of âThe Thick of Itâ debuts on BBC America on April 28, and the showâs fourth season is currently in production in Britain.)
âVeepâ is not Iannucciâs first foray into American television. A watered-down American adaptation of âThe Thick Of It,â developed by âArrested Developmentâ creator Mitch Hurwitz, floundered at ABC several years back. The experience provided Iannucci with a difficult but vital lesson about maintaining creative control of his work.
âI was a little peripheral figure in that whole thing,â he says. âThereâs 15,000 vice presidents of marketing chipping in. Obviously, you can make good television that way, but itâs not how I want to make my stuff.â
In contrast, Ianucci says HBO executives allowed him to create a show that retains the acid wit and blistering vulgarity of âThe Thick of It.â It surely helps that the network has long been home to the brand of cringe comedy pioneered by Iannucci; after all, without âAlan Partridge,â there would probably be no âAli Gâ or âExtras.â
One might think that capturing the absurdities of American politics would present a particular challenge for someone whoâs never lived in the country, but thatâs not the case, according to âVeepâ executive producer and New York magazine columnist Frank Rich. âArmando needed no help, from me or anyone else, when it came to Washington,â Rich says. âHis take is all the more accurate because heâs an outsider. He sees it much more clearly.â
Iannucciâs jaundiced perspective is also informed by extensive reading about American political history. In a rare feat, heâs consumed all three of Robert Caroâs hefty books on Lyndon Johnson, and is particularly fascinated with the late presidentâs career trajectory. âOnce he becomes VP, heâs sort of sitting in his office waiting for a phone call,â Iannucci says. âThatâs what makes the vice presidency interesting from a comedy point of view. Itâs all there, and yet itâs not.â
Indeed, despite the obvious temptation to compare Selina Meyer, Louis-Dreyfusâs character in âVeep,â to Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton, she may in fact have more in common with LBJ. Not only does she display a marked fondness for colorful colloquialisms, but, as a once well-respected senator, Selina bristles at the indignity of her new job.
As for her party affiliation, âVeepâ is purposely vague. âI donât want it to be about a particular brand of politics, itâs more about the process,â Iannucci says.
Actual policy is almost an afterthought; what matters most is saving face. Selina and her ambitious young staffers spend almost no time debating the merits of her green jobs initiative, yet they deliberate endlessly over what flavor of frozen yogurt she should get during a photo-op. (Jamaican rum is deemed âunexpected, funky, kind of sexual.â) Itâs a view of contemporary politics thatâs at once deeply cynical and curiously bipartisan.
Iannucci sees a potent âvisual metaphorâ in the contrast between the stately exteriors of Washingtonâs buildings and the shabby warren of offices inside them. âAmerican power feels like it knows what itâs doing, and actually when you lift the lid up, itâs loads of people running around going, âI donât quite know what Iâm doing,â â he says.
If thereâs a theme running through Iannucciâs career, itâs his preoccupation with language. Before he got into comedy, Iannucci studied English literature at Oxford University, and pursued (but did not complete) a doctorate on the poetry of John Milton. He recently wrote the libretto for âSkin Deep,â an opera about plastic surgery, and, as an enthusiastic admirer of Charles Dickens, Iannucci produced and presented an hourlong documentary about the great Victorian writer for the BBC last year.
He claims all these worthy projects are merely âdisplacement activitiesâ to keep him from completing his novel, âTongue International,â about a for-profit language.
âI still get an email from my editor every 18 months going, âAny news?â â Iannucci says. At least heâs got a prime-time excuse.
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Photos, from top: Armando Ianucci and Julia Louis Dreyfus after the âVeepâ screening in New York; Ianucci in New York. Credits: Michael Loccisano / Getty Images; Carolyn Cole / Los Angeles Times