When Jerrod Carmichael isnât trying to make sitcoms smart again, he unwinds with infomercials and ... Mario Lopez?
On this particular day, though, the ballroom is one of the few quiet spots at the bustling hotel â long an epicenter of the rich and famous â where the 30-year-old comedian has just wrapped a press conference to promote the third season of his edgy NBC sitcom, âThe Carmichael Show.â The series, which tackles topical issues through the unfiltered conversations among family members, returns Wednesday after hovering in limbo without an air date since its Season 2 finale this time last year.
âThis is the only time Iâll be on the Globes stage,â Carmichael says with a hearty chuckle as he places the two chairs down at the center of the stage. âHow dope is this? Take that people!â
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Letâs imagine you just won a Golden Globe for the show. Whatâs your speech?
My speech is, âHey, we are not politicians. Relax. I know you all think youâre having your Brando Oscars moments, but youâre not.â
I take it youâre not a fan of celebrities using the stage as a platform?
Well, because celebrity isnât synonymous with activist, right? You can use your voice for good. Iâm not saying you canât. But the histrionics of it all, at a point, just annoy [me]. When I see it, Iâm like âWhat the ⌠are you talking about?â Because itâs under the illusion that this is America. This is not America. When people stand on this stage and they talk about America, I'm like, âNo, no, no, no, no, no. This is the International Ballroom at the Beverly Hilton. The people youâre talking to couldn't get in here.â
With your recent HBO stand-up special, you didnât devote much time to Trump because, as you say now, itâs overdone. When you opened up the writerâs room for Season 3 of âThe Carmichael Show,â did you operate by that same mindset?
Yeah, we kind of ignored it as far as an episode subject. Weâve touched on it here or there, but this season weâve largely ignored it because the true perspective isnât there yet. Itâs starting to be there, and I, a lot of the time, find it in stand-up first. But the real perspective is just rhetoric. âTrump is bad.â It's like, âOK.â
Every week you read the headline about such and such takes down Trump, and they don't really. I wouldnât want to do it just to say what everyone else is saying. Itâs not an episode of television for us right now. It was before. I did it last season because I knew he was going to win.
This season weâve largely ignored [Trump] because the true perspective isn't there yet.
â Jerrod Carmichael
The show is known for being an issues-oriented sitcom. What will we see explored in Season 3?
Assisted suicide was the first episode we did. We do another [N-word] episode â I got to say [the word] like six times. That brought me a lot of joy. We handled it like adults. We say it like adults. Itâs not children just saying it and taking license and just saying it for the sake of saying it. We also did an episode on alcohol addiction.
Can you do one on how people respond to jury duty service? I have to report this week.
I did it once. It was really fun. I got on a case. Itâs an interesting experience. And they shouldnât let just regular people do that! Everything should be the Supreme Court. Why arenât there 12 judges doing this? There are a lot of judges. There should be 12 judges for each case. Itâs crazy to me that you have a bunch of people that â Lauryn Hill has a lyric that goes âdisinterested peers/ dodging duty for years/ hating the process/ waiting to be returning to their careers,â and thatâs whoâs in jury duty.
I donât imagine you have much TV-viewing time. But what do you watch to wind down at the end of the day?
If Iâm on the road, especially, I like infomercials.
Have you bought anything?
I havenât in years. But I just like it. I like the presentation. I like the set-up. I like that itâs always the person next to the guy or the woman that just canât believe it. And to have testimonials where theyâre like, âIâve been using this product for 15 years.â Iâm like, âHow? I thought you were telling me about this for the first time!â I love a good âSet It and Forget Itâ infomercial or a âNutribulletâ one.
If Iâm in a hotel, Iâll watch the hotel channel â just the standard where they give you previews of movies they have. Iâve seen more hours of Mario Lopez telling me about whatâs new in features than Iâve seen episodes of âVeep.â And I love âVeep.â But Iâve seen more Mario Lopez.
Youâve said before that your goal is to contribute to making sitcoms smart again. Heading into Season 3, what have you learned about what that entails?
I want to make them honest and smart. Comedy at its best is provocative and edgy in a real way, in a thoughtful way. And adult and fun. And so I just want to contribute to that. Itâs the thing that I grew up enjoying, and I donât see a lot. There are some amazing comedies out there. But people are so terrified of people saying something unlikable or appearing unlikable that it stops being honest. You can always tell a comedyâs bad when you hear maracas in it. Anytime you hear maracas or little flute, or like a little [singing] âbah-bah-da-bah-bah-bah-dah.â it probably is a piece of ...
Comedy at its best is provocative and edgy in a real way, in a thoughtful way.
â Jerrod Carmichael
Three seasons in, would you say itâs a hard thing to achieve?
No, itâs really not. As long as youâre not afraid of anything. As long as youâre into it with the best intentions is, itâs really fun. Norman Lear just says, âfollow your heart.â Heâs brilliant. So his advice is what I take.
Final question: How is the book coming along?
You know, itâs funny. I wonât say who, but I had an idea and someone kind of overlapped it. And I was like, âAw, damn it. Now Iâve got to figure out a new approach.â Itâs still the same concept, but just figure out a new approach to it. But Iâm going to go to the woods, just sit in a cabin for a little bit, and think and figure out. âCause I want it to be good. Thatâs where you get inspiration, right? You go up into the woods? I hear trees are great for all that. Maybe itâs about being around what you then will print those thoughts on? I donât know.
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